Troy L. Smith’s 182- Live Old school
hip-hop tapes from 1977 to 1983. To get in contact with me call 212-361-9822 With a true story, and a list of some of
the Freshest, Flyest, Wildest, Boldest shows from the trend setters
of Hip Hop.
What’s
up to my brothers and sisters, who hold a common interest in old school
hip hop tapes as I. In my quest on a never ending journey for these
tapes I’ve found great happiness when I come a cross some hellified
tapes that be rocking like a mother. I also found tapes that sounded
terrible as far as quality, some have had a lot of hissing sounds, and
some have been recorded many times over. I have tapes that are pieces
from other party’s, some sound too fast, sometimes theirs gaps, I even
had a couple tapes that were made from a radio sitting in front of a
speaker. Then
there are those beautiful clear tapes. Thank the lord for them. I
remember being a young brother of 11 maybe 12, getting a tape from a
friend going home and not coming outside for hours because I was caught
up in this tape. I would be in my room playing it over and over, trying
to imagine how the place look, were the party was at, and trying to
picture what these guys looked like, and just loving the lyrics and the
sounds from the M.C. and DJ. Even after knowing the tape by heart, I
still listened to it over and over. I would hear some dope sounds like,
Kool Moe Dee battling Busy Bee and making history by saying the most
unbelievable battle rhymes off the top of his head, ripping Busy Bee
apart. Caz having prepared rhymes for hecklers in the crowd were he
blatantly dissis the hell out of them. The Treacherous Three
telling Mele Mel and the Furious Five they can’t get down, and
asking them openly for a battle. The
infamous Johnny Wa and Rayvon having all the emcee’s of that time
reciting their rhymes. The Fantastic 5 setting the hip hop world
straight on why they are legendary in their battle against the Cold
Crush Brothers. Flash going Bananas on the beat box and his Furious 5
emcees stating why they are the father of all hip hop groups. The Funky
4 rising back up to the top after losing Rahiem and adding Lil Rodney
Cee and Jazzy Jeff. Donald Dee, Kid Vicious and Afrika Islam solidifying
their history in 118 park, in one of those legendary summer nights in
the Bronx. The
Force m.c.’s being a breath of fresh air, with their signature F-
Troop and Adams family routine’s. Busy Bee on short notice and he is
not even on the flyer, killing it and showing why he is the crowd rocker
in Harlem World. Cool a— Reggie Reg and the rest of the Crash Crew
doing it in their silky style. Master Don and his Def Committee emcees
showing the hip hop world why they better not sleep on them. Caz and
J.D.L. the humorous, sarcastic crowd rockers that turned the Cold Crush
Brothers into a Dynasty. Theodore and Flash cutting the hell out of
records and so many dope routines and rhymes, by the likes of the Cold
Crush brothers, Crash Crew, Fantastic Five, Treacherous Three, Furious
Five, Master Don and the Death Committee, Disco 4, L-Brothers, Zulu
Nation, Magnificent 7 of Harlem, Funk Machine, Funky Four and others. To my ears, those were
the best crews. Much props to Doug E. Fresh as he made his bones and
later became an international star. The Fearless Four killing it
freestyle, although they did even more damage when they did album
recordings, Spoonie Gee sounds better on his albums, then at live
parties free styling, I say that because it is hard to get tapes of him
free styling with out him
doing his records. Kurtis Blow got the girls screaming while he is
singing daydreaming. Much props once again, to
Pow Wow and Globe and the rest of the Zulu Nation. Kool
Moe Dee was the reason I never liked or gave myself the chance to like
LL Cool J, (L.L. I later learned to respect a great deal for his
longevity, acting skills and just watching his growth through the years,
and I am not going to front, I still nod my head to many of his joints.)
because to me Moe Dee was the man, at that time. But today I would have
to say that Caz
is the man. I probably like them both the same but I have much
more tapes of the CC4 then the Treacherous Three. I know Mele Mel
is a bad brother, cause on those I
asked Caz one day who was the best between him, Moe Dee and Mel. Of
course he said him, and get this, he said that they knew he was the
best. Of course Moe didn’t agree to this, when he read this. I am sure
Mel would not have either. I know that battle would have been the bomb
back in the days. I think I would have set it up like this, Dot-a Rock,
D.L.B., Rayvon, Tito, Mighty Mike Cee, J.D.L., Busy Bee, Rahiem, Whipper
Whip, Master Rob, Gangster Gee, Rodney Cee, Doug E. Fresh, Mr. Freeze,
Donald Dee, Kurtis Blow, Kid West, G-Man, Spoonie Gee, Pow Wow, Globe,
Kid Creole, Mr. Troy, Cowboy, Johnny Wa, Kid Vicious, Reggie Reg and
Barry B-stro would of battled each other, who ever would of won then
would of stepped in to the battle of their life against Mel, Moe and Caz.
At the end of the battle only one can be left standing of every last M.C.
Who would win only GOD knows. I think at that time if advertised
properly it could have sold out Yankee stadium. As far as D.J.s Theodore,
Flash, DJ AJ, Charlie Chase, Africa Islam, Breakout, Master Don, O.C.,
Crazy Eddie, Barry Bee, Whiz Kid, Jazzy J and Bambaataa were the best by
far. Then there is the Hot to Cool to Vicious Girl m.c.s, Pebbly Poo,
Sha-rock and Lisa Lee. It is hard to debate which one was the best cause
they were all very good. I hope you find great joy in these tapes as I
did cause this is some of the greatest music in the world. Family I need some help,
I am interested in all tapes of this time but right now I hope you can
help me with some special tapes such as: Fantastic five first
anniversary, full Crash crew tapes, Notorious2, Funk machine,
L-Brothers, Salt and Pepper M.C.s (Dot-a-Rock, Whipper Whip that is),
Magnificent 7 from the Bronx and Harlem, Funky 4 with Rahiem, Casanova
Fly, the Funky 4 with Rahiem battling the Furious 5, Furious 3, Mighty
Force, Sound Masters. The number of tapes I have right now is 182, but
the number is always going up because I am always putting in work trying
to get new tapes, I may even have tapes sitting in the house waiting to
be assessed. So know that it is always more coming. Also if you have any
leads for me to reach people that have tapes and the lead turns into
something good, you will be blessed back. To my people, I am from the
Grant projects in Harlem. Peace and blessings to you and your
family……….One Troylsmith21@hotmail.com
you can also call me at 212-361-9822 peace, Praise God and God Bless
you.
1-Fantastic
five, Caz, Busy Bee, Whiz kid, Treacherous three, Spoonie Gee @
T-connection 1981 60min.
(note: Dotta rock does a rhyme about things that are "like".
Dotta Rock opens to headhunters and then passes off to the treach three
and then they pass off to Spoonie Gee.) 2-Treacherous
three side a Club Negrils 82 –Bambaataa, Jazzy J, Cosmic force, soul
sonic force at the T-Connection 80
(note: Treach 3 doing routines with two mics Sunshine rocking with out a
mic.) 90min. 3-Crash
crew, Soul sonic force cosmic force Whiz kid T-Connection 1980 90min.
(Crash crew open up doing routines off 8th wonder and bounce
rock skate. Then they do their famous record. Pow wow does a nursery
Rhyme.) 4-Fantastic
five, Cold crush 4, Soul sonic force, Bam, Whiz kid T. Connection 1981
60min. (Note: Bam is playing a
plate with Flash on the beat box and they kill it, Dotta-Rock saying a
rhyme about an Amazon, Caz, JDL, K Gee testing the mics to some dope
cuts check tape 66 for the rest of the CC4 show.) 5-Busy
bee, Kevin Kev, Dotta Rock, Grand master Caz, D.J. A.J. Theodore,
Audubon 1981 60min.
(The tape start with Waterbed kev rocking off of catch a groove and
changing words to songs like it’s the joint and sugar hill 8th
wonder on the other side kev, busy bee and Caz rock the house together.) 6-Treacherous
three 2nd Anniversaries, Cold crush 4 Harlem world 1982 90min. (Note: treach three ask
the furious five for a battle, Caz disses a heckler in the crowd with a
rhyme just for hecklers, caz also does a rhyme about getting caught in
the bed with a girl name Yvette.) 7-Cold
crush four, Imperial Brothers Hoe ave. boys’ club-1981 60min. (Note: J.D.L. said a girl
in the crowd is sewing her draws because she said "so" to Caz
announcement.) 8-Cold
crush 4, Disco enforcers-T-Connection-1979 60min. (note: JDL opens up to sequence record. side B opens to 8th
wonder with the crew doing a routine and the crew is rocking to freedom.
Caz does a Rhyme about being somebody’s father Caz also rhymes to
another one bites the dust saying he caught j.d.l. and k.g. smoking
dust. 9-Rappers
convention –Fantastic five, Crash crew, Force M.C.s, Cold crush 4,
L.A. Sunshine-Harlem world 82 90min.
(Crash crew doing a lot of talking before they start rocking especially
about the mic Dougie Fresh was using. They do high powered rap and there
second album live and they rock them. Force m.c.s rock the beatbox,
Stevie Dee’s uncle Jessie opens for the force by clowning around. Cold
Crush starts with Caz doing a routine from a Richard Pryor album, by
stating "the white man own the place he just frontin your black ass
off. And J.D.L. is no longer with his ex girl Yvonne Baker. It’s D.J.
A.J. and his sister Pam’s birthday. ). 10-Ecstacy
Garage all stars -Caz, JDL, Whippier whip, K-Gee, Ruby Dee, Theodore,
Soul sonic force, Nice and Nasty four- Ecstasy garage disco 1980 90min.
(JDL is rhyming off of 8th wonder and there all freestyle.) LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE- To all those Busy Bee, Kool Moe Dee battle fans, that believe
their was more then one battle between the two, you were right! It was
two, the first was the legendary battle, which was Christmas Eve, and
Moe dee blazed the show. Also from word of mouth it was said that Busy
Bee
felt he was set up so it was done again, plus Harlem World milked
it. But this time the battle was on New Years Eve. Only 11-Funk Machine-Caz, Donald dee, Kid vicious, Pow wow, M.C. Globe, Afrika Islam,
Fantastic five at 118 Park 60min. (Note: the funk machine is doing work especially Caz, the side with
fantastic is distorted but gets better. I don’t know the date.) 12-Charlie
chase, Furious five at the Forrest projects 1980- Mercedes ladies inner
city disco 1980 60min.
(note: Mellie Mel opening with a echo chamber to good times.) 13-Busy
bee +Kool D.J. A.J., Fantastic five, Cold crush four- T-Connection 1982
60min. (Busy Bee
opens up to freedom and giving out shout outs to high schools, him Caz
and JDL rocking hut and on. B-side Caz rocking to big beat. 14-
Cold crush four Battle the Fantastic five –Harlem world 1981 60min. (note:
from the very beginning when Caz comes on with a bullhorn tells the
fantastic to come out with there hands up to the very end when they are
judge by the audience.) 15-Crash
crew, Cold crush 4, Mean machine, Spoonie Gee. Harlem World and
Connecticut 60min.
(note: This is the Whole show of the Crash Crew they are doing routines
and all of their popular records at that time. Caz screams on a heckler
in the crowd and says his man Roy Thomas is in the hospital with the
herpes and when he gets out "he will be walking like he has a
potato chip in his ass and he don’t want to break it". Mean
Machine perform there popular song as well as do there routines.) 16-Fantastic
five, Cold crush 4, Treach 3- Harlem world 1982 (Note: A.D.s birthday,
and Fantastic doing routines pertaining to Christmas) 60min. 17-Cold
crush 4, Cadet head Quarters 1983- Cold crush 4, T-ski Valley- Harlem
world 1981 (Note: cc4 do a routine
off the record war.) 18-Fearless
four, Cold crush four – Harlem world 1982 60min. (Note: caz-cracking jokes
about fags, coke and herpes. Peso is singing on one of the routines.) 19-Cold
crush 4- ecstasy garage 1980
(note: Caz and J.D.L. start to "another one bites the dust"
later Caz does a rhyme about being someone’s father as well as other
rhymes. J.D.L. does one about a hotel room and K.G. does a short one
about being a private eye. A.D. shows up later and they do a short set
of routines. After there show Greg Ski comes on to D.J. and of course
Caz is snapping on someone’s uncle Mary. 90min. 20-Battle-
Kool Moe Dee, Busy Bee, Johnny Wa Wa, Force M.C.s Cold crush four 60min.
Harlem world 1981 (note: this is the classic battle from beginning to
almost the end. All of Moe Dee’s part is there.) LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE-There should be a special award or recognition for the Cold Crush
for being the funniest, versatile, health conscious, chiming in brothers
in hip hop and just being very original. These are the main reason’s
why the CC4 were and still are my favorite crew. First with Caz and
J.D.L., when the record 21-Furious
four and Flash –Audubon ballroom 1978 and Jackson projects 78 (Note: this is before
Raheim became a part of the crew, also Flash is cutting a lot of records
sounds also like he is cutting a record backwards (Space funk).) 60min. 22-Flash
and Furious Five, Jazzy J, JDL, A.D., K-Gee (note: this is the party where the furious five did the original
recording for Bam’s plate. Bx. River) 60min. 23-Funky
4+1, Raheim, Cowboy, Ruby Dee, Bambaataa, Ikey cee and Lil Dave
-T-Connection 1980
90min.(Note: supposedly shootout at the party. Rodney Cee does a rhyme
about bonnie and clyde chillin in his ride he also does a rhyme about
his birthday. By the way its Jazzy Jeff birthday. ) 24-D.J.
Breakout, D.J. Barren, Funky4+1, D.J. Whiz Kid, Harmonizing 4- at the
T-Connection 1980 60min. 25-
Grand master Flash Furious Five, D.J. Sinbad, Kool Kyle, M.C. Jimmy Dee-
T-Connection 1979
(note: starts off with Mellie Mel rocking off of catch a groove and then
he rocks off of the claps jam.) 90min. 26-Cold
Crush 4, Kurtis Blow-D.J. Davey Dee –Skate palace New Years Eve 1983 (note:
Kurtis Blow Does his song daydreaming along with his routines. All the
Cold Crush is there and there all on point doing there famous routines
A.D. for moment speaks about him not using drugs.) 90min. 27-Cold
crush 4, Force m.c.s, Busy Bee-Printing H.S.—Cold Crush 4, Zulu
Nation-T-Connection
1982 (Note:
Busy Bee is only on for a short time, Jazzy 5 do there thing with some
good routines and play the beat box for a minute. The force M.C.s start
out singing a song and then they do there thing with routines off
F-troop, Gilligans Island, Brady bunch the Adams family and I love to
teach the world to sing also rock the beat box. The Cold crush don’t
complete there session cause it then goes into another party with the
Cold Crush but now there at the T-Connection and J.D.L. is rockin his
hut and Jazzy J is cutting. 90min. 28-Fantastic
five, Cold Crush 4 -Savoy, no date (Dotta Rock does his rhyme about having a child and why you
shouldn’t be gay, Caz cracking jokes, the four do a routine off let it
whip.) 60min. 29-Cold
Crush4, D.J. Jazzy Jay- Connecticut Roller skating rink 1982
(Note: Cold Crush do there routines on the other side Jazzy J is mixing
records before the Crush come on.) 60min. 30-6th
Zulu Nation Anniversary part 2-Bambaataa, Jazzy Jay, Jazzy five m.c.s,
Cold Crush 4, Lil Ikey C
(Note: Master Dee sounds good singing with the group, J.D.L does a rhyme
naming Yvonne Baker as his girl, A.D. comes late. Some trouble breaks
out Ikey Cee has to get on the mic to reprimand the crowd through the
echo chamber.)60min. T-Connection 1981
Peeblee
Poo is the Ma Barker of hip hop. She has a heart of a lion when it comes
to saying her rhymes, and the coolness and style of a Pam Grier. If you
listen to Pebbles on tape32 she is on fire the sound of her voice is
like something from Motown back in the days. Then
there is Lisa Lee on tape77. I have found a new respect for Mrs. Lee,
she killed it. Man she sounded like she was the leader of the crew on
that one. Lisa Lee is another courageous pioneer of the hip hop game.
Also the first woman, to be featured in a hip hop movie. To
read Peebley Poo and Sha- Rock’s story go to www.jayquan.com
we are working on getting Lisa Lee’s story as well. Their are other
females such as Wanda Dee, Debbie Dee, Lil Sha- Rock and others that
made a strong contribution to hip hop. 31-Grand
Master Caz birth party at the new Fever.1992 (note: L.A. Sunshine standing in for J.D.L. Mellie Mel, Big Daddy
Kane, Whipper Whip, Kevin kev, Starsky D.J.ing) 90min. 32-Busy
Bee, Master Don and the death committee, and the cold crush
brothers, as well as L.A. Sunshine. Harlem World 1982 90min.(Busy
Bee rocking and he didn’t know till the last minute and Master Don and
the crew tear it up.) 33-Treacherous
3 in Bermuda 1984 side A D.J. Hollywood at Harlem world 1982 side B
(Note: The Treach do there records Body Rock, At the Party, Whip it,
We’ll turn you on, Action, Get up, Feel the Heartbeat and a Jackson 5
routine then they freestyle off of the record sucker M.C. the breakers
in attendance are Fastbreak and Mr. Wiggles. Side B Hollywood starts
mixing and rocking to numbers and super freak he does "well"
routine and his chorus in the back ground of m.c. Artie Art and Disco
Romeo and sounds like there might be others. This is a Andre Harrell
production- 90min. 34-JDL,
Almighty KG, Ruby Dee, Hi-C, Theodore, D.J. Magic Mike, Quinny Queen.
Location unknown 60min. 35-Cold
Crush4, Whiz Kid, Touch of class disco, Debbie Dee, Wanda Dee, Lil Dave.
Stardust Ballroom 90min.
(note: Toney Tone opens up for the Crush By asking security to move the
crowd back. Whiz Kid on the beat box) 36-Theodore,
Bambaataa, Rocksteady-danceateria 120min. 37-Flash
and the furious5, Kool Kyle, D.j. Sinbad T- Connection 1979 (note:
Raheim starts off rocking to Johnny the fox. Cowboy comes behind and is
rocking off of the bells, later FLASH is cutting "listen to the
base man" and the crowd is loving it also he gets on the beat box
and the do their routine and its Kool Kyle’s birthday and he is
singing off of got to be real and Mel is saying some dope rhymes to the
record groove to get down. This is a really good party they all
rock.)60min. 38-Cosmic
Force, Soulsonic Force, Jazzy Jay, at Amityville Long Island side A(note:
Bam rocks the beat box.) Pow wow, Raheim, Lisa
Lee, Ice Ice, Sundance, Africa Islam, Jazzy Jay etc. side B outside jam
(note: Pow Wow makes a shout out to crazy phil Lisa Lee does her thing
like I never heard before. They all rock the echo chamber.) 60min. 39-Flash
and the Furious5, 1980 location unknown (note: this the only routine I
ever heard on there tapes other then them doing there records and it’s
the "till the break of dawn" routine.) 60min. 40-Harlem
World M.C. throw down 1982-T-Ski Valley (note: he not only does his
record catch the beat, he also does other routines that are pretty
good.) also Spoonie Gee, Busy Bee, Force M.C., Fantastic Five, Cold
Crush four. (Note: the quality of the sound is not the best, but with
the EQ. It sounds fine.) LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE-Do you remember? Alps
hotel……………..Boston road and long fellow ave. Arthur’s Round
Table….Bronx river. Notorious After hour spot. Basement……………….Garacin
ave. First spot were Flash, Mean Gene and cowboy were rocking together. Bronx river
center……...1619 East 174th st. Bronx river ave. Zulu
home. Black
door………………163rd st. Freeman ave. In 1981 became
the Dixie Flash, Mellie Mel and Cowboys home. Boston Road ballroom… Boys
club…………….….173rd st. hoe ave. Easy A.D. home Burger King-
disco……..163rd st. Prospect ave. as crazy as it sounds
Flash did party’s there. They would unscrew the tables and chairs at
7:30 p.m. it was time to party. Burger
King…………….176th st. Webster ave. same thing here
also. Cadet
HQ……………...170th st. Jerome ave. the deegan? Castle hill comm. and
park….Castle hill and Randle ave. Cedar
park…………….. Burnside. home of Kool Herc and were Theodore
first showed his invention "scratching". Christ the
King……….…170th st. Grand concourse Club
371………………...? Co-op city com.
Center…Co-op City. Disco
Fever…………….167th st. Jerome ave. Flash and the
Furious5 Disco Fever
new………..East Tremont and Webster ave. Double 6’s
club…………Melville and Morris ave. Echo
park……………….Burnside ave. Ecstasy
Garage…………1508 Macomb’s rd. 170th st. home of the
Cold Crush brothers. Emma’s
Place…………..around the corner from the T-Connection Empire roller
rink………Empire blvd. And Bedford ave. Executive
Playhouse……? Forrest
projects…………166th st. Forrest ave. Hevalo………………...176th
st. Burnside Inner city
disco………….169th st. prospect L. Brothers home I.S.
131………………….Theriot ave. I.S.
167………………….East Tremont West Farms Jackson
pro………………158th Cortland ave. house D.J. Jazzy
Black James Monroe
cent………1790 Story ave. j.h.s.123…………………..Watson
ave. home of Disco King Mario and the Chuck city crew, ex Black Spades
did security. Also called the Funky 3 J.H.S.
137………………..885 Bolton ave. j.h.s.147…………………Webster
ave. and Claremont j.h.s.148…………………169
3rd. ave. HillTop…………………... Hunts Point Palace………. Kips Bay boys
club……..Between Pugsley ave. and Randle ave. Maxwell
Park……………St.Pauls and 3rd ave. Mitchell
Gym……………137th st. Alexander ave. Monroe H.S…………….up
the hill from bx. river another home of Zulu. More Houses Gym…….. Morris H.S………………Boston
Rd. 166th st. P.A.L……………………183rd
st. Webster ave. Prospect
theater…………163rd st.. Between prospect ave. and no
longer there. 18
park…………………..behind the Patterson projects. Casanova turf. 23
park………………….? 104 park
………………...? Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hyde home 116
park…………………175th st. Walton ave. 118
park…………………180th st. Arthur ave. and Belmont
ave. 123
park…………………Theriot and Leland ave. 145
park…………………Webster ave. The
Puzzle……………… Recovery
Room…………149th st. Grand Concourse. After hour spot. Roller
dam……………….? Savoy
manor…………….120 east 149th st. between Walton ave.
and the grand concourse Skate
Fever………………176th st. Jerome ave. off mount eden Skate
palace……………...930 soundview ave. South Bx. H.S……………Stanns
ave. Sound
Symposium……….3813 Boston Rd and Bay Chester ave. Sound View Com.
Center..1680 Seward ave. Sparkle…………………...? St. Andrews Episcopal
Ch..Virgil ave. Stevenson H.S……………1980
Lafayette ave. Star dust
ballroom……….. Boston Post Rd. Stadium
hotel…………….cedric ave. T-connection……………..
3510 White plains Rd. Twilight
Zone…………….? The
Valley………………..Rock Park baychester White
Castle………………Soundview, Bruckner expressway after the Bronx
river party, go eat and hangout. The World Roller
Rink…… Needs more names and
address open for suggestions and corrections. Must cater to
oldschoolhiphop 77 to 83 41-Cold
Crush Four, Treacherous Three -Hoe ave. Boys club 1982 (note: D.L.B. stands in for Kool Moe Dee and Caz does a new
rhyme and Tony Tone’s mother is there as well as associates of the
movie Wild style.)-60min. 43-Side
A the Cold Crush 4 and Busy Bee Harlem World 1981 (note: Caz, J.DL and Busy Bee rocking Hut together. Caz says
"to all the virgins in the house, thanks for nothing".) Side B Flash and Kurtis
Blow 1979 unknown location, on that same side Zulu nation Long Island
with Mr. Big, Hutch Hutch, and Pow wow and he is doing a rhyme about
buffalo bill -date unknown. -60min 44-Flash
and the Furious five T-Connection 1980 (note: Cowboy opens up to Got to be real and he is using an echo
chamber.) side B Force M.C. Broadway international 1983 (note: Bee Fats
is cutting after the force finishes.)-90min 45-Flash
and the Furious (note:
Five Mellie Mel opening up for the crew with cowboy following off of
breaking bells and playing other records such as head hunters, Johnny
the fox and rocket in the pocket.) Fantastic five. 1980 T-connection.
-60min 46-Boat
ride coming from Bear Mountain. Cold Crush four, Treacherous Three (note:
this party they are coming back from bear mountain and Caz says they are
getting there $5.50 worth, Caz and JDL rocking Hut. Check tape 124 for
them going to Bear Mountain. I finally found it!)-90min 47-side
A the Incredible 3. M.C.s Tech Ski, Destiny, Chucky Chuck and D.J. Lil
Chase. (Note: no
location or date and it appear to be three different shows by them.)
Side B Funky Four + 1(note: KK Rockwell starts by saying "he likes
to do his thing" off the record got to be real and the other m.c.s
one by one say the same thing one by one then they go in to routines.
There is no date or location safe to assume 79.) 48-side
A Treacherous three at? (Note:
This is a nice clear tape and the party is cool.) Side B Kool Moe Dee in
concert at Greenville South Carolina 1987 (note: Moe dee is doing his
records wild wild west, how you like me now etc, also speaks about the
feud between him and LL cool J at the Apollo.)-90min 49-Cold
Crush 4, Funky 4+1 Halloween T-connection 1981 (note: Caz and JDL are doing there notorious two routine as well
as there others with A.D. and K.G. Caz also says its not as pack as the
night before when they were at south Bx. High school and the funky four
are doing a lot of shout outs to the fantastic and cold crush as well as
Busy Bee and then they do a few routines and some nice free
style.)-60min 50-Dougie
Fresh and Kid West, and others at different parties. And a home
recording. Busy Bee and Rock steady in Tokyo 1983 and 198? -90min LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE-Do you remember? Abalon………………..? Armory 369 Regiment
Armory…2366 5th ave. Amphitheater…………FDR
drive East Houston Green park. Famous last setting for the wild style
movie. Audubon……………...166th
st. Broadway were Malcolm X was assassinated. Bath house Kennedy….135th
st. 5th ave. B.&.B………………...2234
east 122nd st. 3rd. ave. Broadway
Inter……….146th st. Broadway Bunch of
Grapes………125th st. 5th after hour spot C+C
disco……………..over Lenox Lounge on 125th st. Lenox
ave. Celebrity
Club………...125th st. 5th ave. Central Park
East………110th st. 5th ave. Magnificent 7
turf. Chama Day
Care………147th st. 7th and 8th ave.
Master Don turf Charles Gallery………..125th st. between
St. Nicholas and 8th ave. Chuck
center…………..between 115th st. and 116th st.
and 2nd ave. Clinton
Center…………110th st. Lexington ave. M7 turf. Claps
the………………309 west 125th st Close
Encounters………next door to the Broadway International Club
Fresh…………….108west 43rd st. Club Negrils…………..181
east 11st. 2nd Ave. Danceteria…………….21st.
between 5th and 6th st. Earths
Edge…………...? Enterprise……………..? Foster
Center………….2w. 115th st. 5th ave. King
Towers (Foster projects) Fun
house……………..26th st. between 10th and 11th
ave. Grant
projects…………123rdst. to 125thst. between
Broadway Amsterdam ave and Morningside ave. Harlem
world…………116th st. Lenox ave. legendary battle
between the Fantastic 5 and the Cold Crush 4 site, as well as Moe Dee,
Busy Bee Battle. Hotel
Diplomat……….47th st. Broadway I.S.
201……………….127th st. Madison ave. Latin
Quarters…………48th st. between Broadway and 7th
ave. Lincoln center
sq.……..65th st. west end ave. and Amsterdam ave. Lincoln West
com…….2110 Madison ave. 133rd st. Mr.
Souls……………...115th st. 5th ave. ManhattanVille
pro…….126th st. old Broadway to 130th st..
Amsterdam ave. Mount Morris
park…….123rd st. Madison ave. Nat Holman
Gym……...City College 138th st. Convent Ave. P.A.L………………….123rd
st 8th and 7th ave. Peppermint
lounge…….15th st. 5th ave. moved from 45th
st. Broadway Ponderosa…………….145th
st.8th ave. Printing High School…50th
st. 9th ave. Randy’s
Place…………..309 west 125th st. 8th ave. and
st.Nicholas. Renaissance……………137th
st.7th ave. Roof
Top………………155th st. 8th Ave. Roxys………………….18th
st. 10th 11th ave. Shomberg
center………110th st. 5th ave. M7 turf Smalls
Paradise………..135th st. 7th ave. Terrace
Ballroom………26 East 125th st. bet. Mad and 5th
ave. This Bitter
Earth……….125th st. 5th ave. after hour spot 3333
Broadway…………135th st. Broadway Union
Sq………………..14th st Union Sq. Wetlands………………..Hudson
st. near canal st. 51-Cold
Crush4, Fantastic 5, Boogie boys T-Connection 1980- 90min 52-Funky
Four T-Connection they are using an echo chamber. Master don death
committee at Patterson N.J. (note:
they sing a routine from a Gladys Knight song. And do their famous song
funk box. 90min. 53-Black
History month-Cold Crush D.ST Infinity rappers, Debbie Dee, Jazzy 5
Jazzy Jay, Magical five, Busy Bee Location and Date unknown 90min.
(note: this tape Caz dedicates the next routine to the most supt. Up
niggers that charge $7 and don’t do a show, D.ST I believe is using a
synthesizer, the jazzy five music went out cause somebody step on the
cord and their was a fight.) 54-Force
M.C.s BATTLE Cold Crush 4 Patterson N.J. 60min. (note: This tape was cleaned up by my man Dagod9 only flaw it’s a
bit slow in the very beginning but after that its dynamite. The force
put on an excellent show but the Cold Crush, from the words of Caz,
never went there to battle, in fact the Force wasn’t there when the
Cold Crush was on stage, the Force was coming in when the Cold Crush was
leaving. And if you listen close the Cold Crush never makes reference to
the Force. But it still was a good show.) 55-Dougie
Fresh Battles Master Don and the death committee on side A, Side B
Dougie Fresh and the get fresh crew as well as the Tranquilizing three
60min. (note:
Dougies human beat box battles Barry Bee’s turntables. Also Barry Bee
battles DJ Smalls. Master Don cuts with sneakers on his hands. And
Master Dons M.C.s battle Doug saying he wears Corduroys in the summer
but the tape doesn’t have Doug battling them back.) 56-L-brothers
BATTLE Herculoids 1978 Side A, Side B L-brothers and the Zulu Nation
T-connection 1979 90min.
(note: Side A sounds pretty scratchy needs work. Side B is the bomb,
Theodore cuts super sperm better then any body in this world.) 57-
Live Convention- L-brothers, Treach 3, Busy Bee, Mellie Mel, Flash,
Theodore, E-man, Smiley.
(Note: This is an amazing tape because this is were the 81, 82
convention albums were made from. its not the best quality tape, in fact
I had to fill in some parts from the albums because it sounded so bad
from hissing, but you can tell very easily that those albums were taken
from this tape, and its really from 1980 and they are rocking at the
celebrity club and it’s Smiley’s birthday!)90min 58-Zulu
Nation: Hutch Hutch, Mr. Big, Pow Wow, Sundance, Africa Islam. Bronx
river center 1979
90min. (Note:
One of the many jams they rock is "toys in the attic".) 59-Zulu
Nation: DJ Jazzy Jay, DJ Robbie Rob, M.C. Globe, Lil Ikey C, Pow wow,
Mr. Biggs. T-Connection 1980 60min. (Note:
second record Bam cuts is Hut and later on "1,2,3,4 hit" it as
well as "that’s the joint" and bustin loose and the
telephone jam, in that order.) 60-Zulu
Nation: Charlie Rock, Bam, Red Alert, Whiz kid, Bill Blast, Pow wow, M.C.
Globe. T-Connection 1980 60min.
(note: a little static, they rock a lot of songs such as love and effect
ion, Numbers, "Can I shine yawl shoes", Funky penguin, big
beat and others.) LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE- lets talk about Grand Master Flowers. It is said that their is a
time when Mr. Flowers was such a bad meaning good, D.J.ing brother that
he had once opened up for James Brown at Yankees Stadium. The
history of Mr. Flowers is he use to go up to the Bronx from Brooklyn to
hear Kool Herc play. They were some what similar in the fact that they
had very strong, powerful systems and they built there own speakers. Now
Flowers on his visits to the Bx. to check the other D.J.s, notice Flash
and his greatness. He quickly named Flash, Grand Master. That’s right
Flowers named Flash, Grand Master. Flowers felt That Flash took D.J.ing
to a whole new level. In 1974 Flowers popularity grew so much that he
played at the most popular clubs N.Y.C. he was even mentioned in the
commercials that WBLS did for Studio 54. By 1975 Mr. Flowers formed his
crew which was called " THE GMF CREW" which consist of D.J.
Blue, Aron and Barren. From 76 to 79 he was very strong and popular. But
by 1980, ended up succumbing to drugs. In 1992 he died because of drugs.
Peace and blessings to you and your family, Grand Master Flowers. Check
his sound and style at tapes 97 and 98. peace 61-Grand
master Flash mix (note:
Flash cutting such records as Children growing, Toys in the attic, the
honey drippers, Corzon, Dance to the drummers beat etc.) 62-Grand
master Caz Break beats- (note:
Caz cutting such records as jimmy castors "its just begun",
Rock creek park, the Mexican, Frisco disco, Keep your distance, Mary
Mary etc.) 90min. 63-DJ
Hollywood, Eddie Cheeba, Starsky, DJ Divine, Flash, Mellie Mel and
Kurtis Blow-Jamaica Queens Armory 1979
(note: this is a good party and a fine tape of sound, it was well
preserved. And some of the m.c.s make reference to the sugar hill gang
in a negative way, also Flash rocks the beat box.) 90min. 64-Side
A-Treacherous three and T La Rock at Hempstead L.I. 1984 (note: This side of the tape the Treach are truly rocking
and T La Rock does his cut "It’s yours" the quality is real
good no hissing what so ever only problem it’s only coming out of one
speaker so I am working on trying to get it to come out of the other
side.) Side B- Treacherous three 1st. Anniversary, DJ Starsky,
Spoonie Gee and Busy Bee 1981 Harlem world (note: the party is dope but
the quality gets kind of bad when the tape gets to the treach starting
there show. Busy bee sounds real good at the end rocking off heartbeat
but he goes off too soon, but I enjoyed the show.)90min. 65-
Fantastic five T- Connection 1980
(note: This sounds like two different party’s the first they make
reference to it being Cool Herc and Bambaataa’s birthday and the other
makes reference to Mr. Magic in the house.) 60min. 66-Dotta
Rock’s birthday party, the second half.1980 T-Connection
(note: this is the second half of the party, I am looking for the first
half. Also Fantastic announces they were going to battle the Crash crew
the next night.) Side b, This is the end of tape 4. The CC4 do there
routines and Wiz kid is cutting in the place of Charlie Chase. Caz also
Sings off of "ain’t no stopping us now". 90mins 67-{note:
radio to speaker} Fantastic five first anniversary at Harlem world 1981 (note:
this is a radio facing the speaker tape and this is one of there better
shows only problem like always it seems they have mic problems, this is
a dam good show they put on there is a lot of crowd participation. any
body got the straight to tape show please hit me with it. Also the
Harlem world crew rocks in between Some hissing but better then I
thought) 90min. 68-{note:
radio to speaker} Busy Bee, Fearless four, Devastating 3, Sweet G.
Queens (note:
Darrell C is cutting for Busy Bee and Busy is a funny brother before he
starts rocking talking about he lives across from abandon buildings in
the Bronx also its his birthday. anybody got the straight to tape show.)
90min. 69-{note:
radio to speaker} Mean Gene, Theodore 3rd ave. Ballroom 1977 (note:
although this is a radio to speaker tape you would never know until the
m.c. comes on. Theodore and his brother are cutting a lot of good
records.) 90min 70-Dr.Jeckyl
and Mr. Hyde unknown location possibly 1979 side A Flash supposedly The
Disco Fever 1984 side B (note:
both sides sound kind of scratchy and hissing, the Jeckyl side which
they open up to toys in the attic and Ronnie green is the D.J. and Flash
starts with his Jam "it was a party night".) LET’S GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE- What up family. Lets for a minute think about the singer in each
group and soloist, and of them all who was the best. Furious 5- Rahiem it is
said, was some what the first to start singing when he was running with
the Funky 4. It was also said that he was boss the way he sounded and
that’s why to this day people fein for funky 4 tapes, when Rahiem was
down. Now
when he got down with Mel and Flash you never really heard him sing
unless it was that routine "Flash is on the beat box" and the
brother sounds real good, listen to tape 4. (Note: I was told from my
man Rams that Rahiem and the Funky 4 who were originally Keith Keith,
K.K. Rockwell Sha rock and Rahiem were one of the first major groups in
the very beginning, and one of the ways they made there mark as the
elite, was through the voice of Rahiem. In one of there many routines,
they did one from the Crazy Eddie commercial in the mid 70s and it was
like a dedication to Breakout their D.J. and the crew. Some of you
historians remember how that melody went, so just imagine Rahiem doing
lead, doo wop style and that voice of Sha- Rock also. From what I heard
it was truly blazing.) Master Don and the Death
Committee- Gangster Gee does a routine slash song to the melody of one
of Gladys Knight’s song. Now me, my self personally I did not care for
this song/routine but I give him props for doing something different for
his crew and I am sure that others dug it cause he sounds very
professional, and the chick s were going crazy. Check tape52 and 73. Fearless 4- Peso does a
routine slash song off of a Stevie Wonder song and he sounds chill, to
be honest with you, he surprised me. Check tape 18. Cold Crush 4- Grand
Master Caz does his routine slash song off the melody "ain’t no
stopping us now" he also sounds chill and also surprising because I
did not hear him sing until long after I heard those songs the Cold
Crush were singing collectively. So when Caz starts to sing he does his
thing. Check tape 66. Magnificent 5- Rayvon is
a bad brother that’s all I can really say you are going to have to
listen to tape 76 for yourself. He sounds similar to Hollywood and at
the same token its all Rayvon’s style. I really think this brother
missed his calling he and Johnny Wa sound great together. Rayvon is the
show. I strongly suggest you listen to tape 76 Cosmic Force- Lisa Lee
like I said sounded like the leader of the crew. That routine was very
original. Force M.C.s-When it comes
to singing there is nothing needed to be said; they went on to be come
legendary. Thank the Lord for the Force they are some talented brothers. Kurtis Blow- Much props
to him, he killed it with that "Day dreaming". Chicks were
bugging out when they Jazzy 5- Master Dee I
think could have went on and became a singer and I am going to have to
ask around to find out what became of him and his singing. Kool Kyle the Star Child-
check tape 37 I really don’t know if his main intention was to add
singing to his repertoire but he sound good here at his birthday party
with the small piece he did. Mean Machine- Jimmy Mac
does a decent rendition of Michael Jackson on tape 92 71-Busy
Bee 1st. Anniversary, Furious 5, Cold Crush brothers, P.A.L
1981(note:
Charlie Chase is there cutting for busy bee. flash not there for the
Furious five so all they are doing is passing the mic. JDL is not there
for the Cold crush which is kool cause Caz holds it down, doing his
rhymes plus his song off of "ain’t no stopping us" record.)
90min. 72-Busy
Bee, Cold crush 4, Fantastic five, 81 T-Connection (Note: Busy Bee starts off to Freedom and then says sneak
preview as he starts to rock to funky president then JDL starts rocking
with busy and Caz gets on with them to Hut, also rocking "On"
as well as Mary Mary.) 90min. 73-Master
Don and the Death Committee, Force m.c.s, Dougie Fresh and the Crash
crew. 83 Savoy manor (note:
Master Don and the crew do work in this show. Not only do they do
routine off of Gladys knight theme they also do one off of Sly and the
family stone as well as others and Don rocks the beat box. Dougie Fresh
does his thing, also disses Busy Bee in a rhyme. The Force tries to rock
with out there D.J. and the Crash crew time on, unfortunately is finish
before there act is done because somebody starts shooting.) 90min. 74-
1st.party Cold Crush4 and Dougie Fresh at the Shirley arena in Long
Island 1984 (note:
K.G. starts off rocking to "Billie jean", they are mostly
saying new rhymes. Caz does a rhyme about sexing a girl and about being
an M.C. GOD. K.G. mic was having a problem. Dougie Fresh opens up to
"what people do for money". He battles His D.J. Chill Will
Human beat box battles the D.J. He has a lot of fan participation.) 2nd
party which is only a quarter of the tape has Dougie Fresh and Crazy
Eddie are rocking in Manhattan Ville projects and along came Silver Fox
who did his thing 1982.60min. 75-Dougie
Fresh, Tito of the Fearless four, Kid west, Magic Dee House tape 1984 (note:
I would have to say that Kid west rocked this tape then Tito and then
Doug. Magic Dee also made his presence felt.) Not a full 60min. 76-This
is three different party’s on this one tape that are BLAZING Side A
has Flash, Kurtis Blow, Disco Four at Randys Place 1982 (note: It sounds as if there is fight at the end cause the M.C.
keeps saying please get off the tables and calm down.) On that same side
another party with an unknown location it’s the Treacherous 3 along
with Spoonie Gee and Moe Dee makes reference to the up coming battle
between them and Furious five. It appears obvious that this battle was
already negotiated, but as history shows it never happened. I asked L.A.
once why did they never battle, he said the furious just kept on ducking
them. Side B Johnny Wa, Rayvon, Kool Kyle, Treacherous 3 at P.A.L. in
Harlem 1981 (Johnny Wa and Rayvon do a fantastic show it almost sounds
like Rayvon is doing D.J. Hollywood’s style.)60min. 77-Funky
4+1 and the Zulu nation 1981 123 park
(note: there is about to be two different fights at this party. Africa
Islam and Jazzy Jay are cutting and it is Breakouts birthday. They also
rock Flash is on the beat box plate.) 60min. 78-Funky
4+1 at the T-Connection 1981 (note:
the crew is doing work, but Rodney Cee steals the show doing rhymes
about his sons a girl name melody and smoking dust and other rhymes.)
60min. 79-Lisa
Lee, Rahiem, Pow wow outside jam
(note: Lisa Lee kills it on this party like I never heard her it is
worth listening to.) Funky 4+1 1980
T-Connection (note: the crew is rocking off the echo chamber. Keith
Keith does a rhyme with the gilligans island melody and Rodney cee does
a rhyme about how the crew got together.) 60min. 80-Whipper
whip, Dotta rock, Frankie Rowe, Bill blast, Jerry Dee, Warlock 5 1980 T.
Connection (note:
they are mostly passing the mic around, the Warlock 5 show is not
complete.) Wiz kid, D.J. Lady love,
Bambaataa M.C. Globe 1981 T. Connection (note: the D.J.s are just
cutting a lot of records half are cool out records and it feels like
every body is laid back.)90min. LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE- In an interview with J.D.L. I asked him "What were your
thoughts on the Force M.C.s, did yall have beef before and after this so
called battle, cause I asked Caz was it a battle he said "no".
He said when Crush were leaving they were just coming in. When you
listen close I never hear the Cold Crush 4 mention them". Also how
was the relationship afterwards?
J.D.L.s
response was "The Force M.C.s were real good, they had tight, good,
cute, novelty routines (like a nice breath of fresh air). Their D.J. was
on 81-Fantastic
5, Touch of class disco 1980 T. Connection (note: this is mostly Touch of class disco party but only Apollo
one and Terry Tee were able to perform.) 60min. 82-Brothers
4, Pernelleo, pernelleo’s little brother, Bam boo crew, Master don and
the def committee, Mafia family, Fearless four, Mr. Bond, D.J. Mr.
Freeze, Elmo, Dollar Bill. 1980 Terrace ballroom (note: this is a contest and one of the judges is L.A. Sunshine. I
am not happy with this tape cause I cannot tell if this tape sounds
scratchy or gravely cause of D.J. equipment or cause of the systems that
were recording this after the show. I would give the trophy to Master
don and the crew.) 60min. 83-Zulu
Kings: Grand Master Caz, Mellie Mel, Busy Bee, Bronx style Bob. Also Ice
Tee, Donald Dee, Lil Steve and female m.c. Star lite. 1986 at Prospect
theater. (note:
The Zulu Kings do there thing, especially when they do there routine
about marijuana laced with crack, which are called woolers. They use the
record called rumors by I believe the group timex social club. The show
is pretty good. One thing that has not change they are insulting the
hell out of hecklers. Ice Tee makes reference to the infamous Larry
Davis being caught by the cops the night before and so Ice Tee tells the
crowd he had his bail and the crowd loved it. Also there is a third of a
show from the zodiac club on there, pretty much the same thing.)90min. 84-Zulu
16th Anniversary-Lord Finesse, Jungle Brothers, B.D.P. KRS1,
Dougie Fresh and Jazzy Jay cutting for him. 1990 at Bronx river. (note: KRS1 and Doug put on a hell of a show, Finesse and
jungle put on a good show also.)90min. 85-Kid
Capri, Star Child , Busy Bee, Cowboy. 1988 at the Roof Top. (note:
Cowboy in the house for one side doing his thing. a very interestingly
funny tape.) 90min. 86-Brucie
Bee, Busy Bee. 1988 at the Roof Top.
(note: Busy Bee is a very funny brother here and the party is rockin.)
90min. 87-Kid
Capri. 1988 at the Roof Top. 90min. 88-
Love Bug Starsky. 1992 at the Roof Top. 90min. (note there are thousands of these tapes. I remember it was 86 or
87 my man Big Bub said this brother Kid Capri of the Roof Top uptown
155st was selling tapes of the party’s he was D.J.ing, for $10 and
right away all the fellas were jumping on it and the rest is history.
Cause to me that’s were all these mix tapes of today started from, Kid
Capri and Brucie Bee as well as Kool Kyle the Star Child. These tapes
were the thing back then. Although Capri was banging I liked Brucie Bee
better I guest cause he had the chill voice with the lil echo. Yo the
best thing I can tell you, if you are interested in more of these type
of tapes, Check my man Rock of "Rock and Will" his store is at
23west 125th st. in back of the jewelry counter. between
Lenox and 5th or call him at 1-212-534-2056. 89-Grand
Master Caz, K.G., Donald Dee, Ikey Cee and the Force m.c.s with Jazzy
Jay cutting for them. 1983 at Bronx river. (note:
Caz and K.G. cut off too soon, and Jazzy Jay is cutting real good for
the Force m.c.s, especially when he cuts "catch the beat".
Ikey Cee is also D.J.ing on this tape.)90min. LETS GO BACK FOR A
MINUTE- I am going to speak about the Fantastic 5 for a moment. Right
after I heard the Fantastic 5 battle with the Cold Crush, I felt that
they were very good and in my honest opinion they won the battle, over
all the Cold Crush 4 is a better, a much better crew and I only say that
because I am a fan. But on this night Fantastic won and the reason is
they had a totally new show of routines. When Kevie Kev asked Dotta Rock
if he was ready to win the G and Dot said the gusto is going home with
me. You knew something was about to happen. Cause first the lyrics of
the intro was slamming but you hear chicks screaming and people yelling,
then they have mic problems, but go back in to there routine saying
"like a four leaf clover when the party’s over the Cold Crush
will be starving Marvin". The routine and rhymes were real tight.
Head hunters was like one of my favorite records so when that came
on they just killed it. Then Theodore came on 90-Kid
Vicious, Donald Dee, Soulsonic Force, Afrika Islam, D.J. Superman. 1979
at the Renaissance and bx.river.
(note: it starts to Mardi gras and they are using the echo chamber.
Master Ice does a rhyme about "chuck a luck, black jack, five card
charlie and cee low.)90min. 91-Mr.
Hyde, Mr. Bond, Star Child, D.J. Ronnie Green, D.J. Artie Art. 1977 or
78 at the Foster center.
(Note: D.J. Artie Art is doing some great D.J.ing as well as Ronnie
Green. I am not sure that’s the same Kool Kyle the Star Child, if it
is he might not have reached puberty yet. He does rhymes pertaining to
cartoon characters. Other then that they are playing some beautiful
records such as Toys in the attic, Groove to get down, dance to drummers
beat and others and they are using an echo chamber.) 92-Harlem
world crew- Son of Sam, Charlie Rock, D.J. Randy, D.J Tastic, 1982
outside Jam in the area of The Valley and Section 5 of the Bx. (note: First the Harlem World crew come on and they do there
thing, I like there style I hope to get more tapes of them. The Mean
Machine (Butch Kid, Julio, Slick Rick and Jimmy Mac) come on last and
they get booed terribly and told collectively by the crowd to go home
even after Jimmy Mac does a rendition of Michael Jackson’s song. In
between these two groups is a contest between such groups as the
Ultimate 4, Famous M.C.s, Casanova 4 and the Hypnotizing 5. The Famous
M.C.s won. Also Rasta Kid got on the mic for a minute.) 93-Cold
Crush 4- Record release party 1983 Danceteria (Note: The Cold Crush release there record "The
Heartbreakers". In this show L.A. Starts the Four off the record by
Prince "Lets go crazy" and they start to rock there records
"weekend", "Punk rock rap" which J.D.L. rocks,
"the Heartbreakers" and "Fresh, Fly, Wild and Bold and do
some of there routines. The whole show is not recorded but at least 45
minutes is in. I fill it up with a show with J.D.L., K.G. and A.D. at
another location.)60min. 94-
Tito and Paso of the Fearless 4, House party no date (Note: This is a house joint and the D.J. is Grand Master C.O.P.
They start rocking to the actual record they used to "Rocking
It" They do a routine to the record "Dog a donut". D.J.
Charlie Rock comes on for a minute. Tito does a rhyme getting stuck up
and Paso does one about sexing his teacher they rhyme together on
meeting the president Jimmy Carter and rocking at the white house.) Side
B Devastating 3 D.J. Barry Bee at Barry’s mother house July 5th
1983 (note: This is supposedly there last time rocking together, Kid
West is going off to college. Doug Fresh comes on the very beginning for
like an intro then the 3 do a routine from earth wind and fire and
others and free style.)90min. 95-Whiz
Kid, Ramsey Rams, D.J. Elroy, m.c. Spanky, Lil Dave at the T-Connection
1981 (note: This
is a Kool Herc production. Whiz Kid fresh coming off winning a D.J.
battle a week earlier, passes on to another D.J. who thinks he can do
better, and displays that he has talent. Kool Herc speaks for a minute
but briefly. Also announce a month from that day Whiz Kid will have a
record release.)60min. 96-Flash,
Furious 5, Jazzy J, Bambaataa at the T- Connection not sure of date. (note:
This maybe two different party’s but it opens with jazzy j, and
Bambaataa and they rock the Flash on the beat box plate. Next Flash and
them come on and they are very involve and rock the record "walk
like sex", hut and others and flash slices in that Flash Gordon
piece. Not a full side only about 20minutes.) side B- Jazzy 5 in New
Jersey 1981 (note: Start off doing a routine off of Jackson 5 melody
"never can say goodbye". Mr. Freeze does a rhyme about
"the game of life" and they rock "Jazzy
Sensation".)60min. 97-D.J.
Grand Master Flowers- outside jam Brooklyn 1979 (Note: This is the legendary D.J. Flowers and you can definitely
hear why. Although it is all disco music you can tell why he is
categorized with the other legends. His m.c., well I don’t know. His
name is Barren. Flowers runs into some tech problems as well he uses
sound effects.) 120min. 98-D.J.
Grand Master Flowers- St. Marks Park Brooklyn 1979 (Note: Flowers has a couple m.c.s Greg Cee, Derrick Bee, m.c. Lee
Wild Mike E and John V and D.J. Blue. Its mostly disco but he adds in a
few breaks such as Super sperm and they rock the echo.)120min. 99-Zulu
Nation 6th Anniversary (pt.1) Soulsonic Force, Jazzy Jay
T-Connection 1981
(Note: Soul sonic get busy and it is nice and clear. Check tape 30 for
the 2nd part.)60min. 100-
Troy L.’s ALL STARS- This tape will have studio recordings from m.c.s
and groups from 1977 to 1983 and people referring to hip hop from 1977
to 1983 as well as "LIVE" pieces. Side A- Whodini-Do it
again Pumpkins All Stars Treacherous 3 and Spoonie
Gee-Heat (real nice cut 2000) Fearless 4-Fearless
Freestyle Supreme Team-World Famous T-Ski Valley-Catch the
Beat "Live" Johnny
Wa and Rayvon- at Harlem world. Cold Crush 4- Fresh, Fly,
Wild and Bold RUN-DMC-Together Forever Just-Ice- Going way back Side B- "Live"
Lisa Lee- Outside Jam in the Bronx. Zulu Nation- Planet Rock Fearless 4- Fearless 4000 Kool Moe Dee- Monster
Crack Cold Crush 4- Punk Rock
Rap "Live" Cold
Crush 4- at Harlem world Fearless 4- Got to turn
out Disco 4- Were at the
party Crash Crew- High power
rap Kool Moe Dee- Wild, Wild
West. 101-
Cold Crush 4, Salt and Pepper M.C.s – South Bronx High School 1980
(Note: Whipper Whip and Dotta- Rock are rocking right with the Cold
Crush passing the mic back and forth, and they are rocking the echo
chamber real thick. K.G. does a rhyme about different soda’s, Dot does
one about fly girls off the record Toys in the attic. This is a prom or
graduation party for the South Bronx High School.)60min. 102-
Funky4+1more- T- Connection 1980
(Note- The Funky do a routine accapella off of the melody "I know I
am in love" by Chi Chi and Pepe. They do the record "That’s
the joint" for the first time. Rodney Cee calls Breakout
"break a ball".) 103-
Jazzy 5 T-Connection 1980 (Note-
I am doing a big check on this crew, cause this is not the Jazzy 5 that
did " Jazzy Sensation" with Jazzy J and Mr. Freeze and the
crew. This crew consist of Debbie Dee, Jazzy Ace, Busy E, Sinister Rock
and Darrell Dee and the D.J.s are Master Plan Randy Ran and Patty Duke.
Also it is Dot-A-Rocks birthday and Wiz Kid is also cutting.)60min 104-
Zulu Nation- Red Alert, Master Dee, Master Bee, Jazzy Jay, Globe and Pow
wow. Brentwood Long Island (Note-Master
Bee does a rhyme about shooting dice and another about giving directions
to girl on how to get to the T-Connection. Master Dee does a rhyme about
getting busy with a girl and another about a fool and hard times.)90min. 105-
Force M.C.s from
south side of Queens and the members are Cool Dee, Jazzy Gee, Sha-heam,
Pookie, Darrell Dee, Disco Gee and bust these names Rahiem, Starsky and
there d.j.s name is Busy Bee. Somebody give me some history on this
crew. Other performers were Keith Keith of the Herculoids, Easy Gee and
Jazzy Jay T-Connection (Note: It is Kool Herc and Bam’s birthday) 106-
Zulu Nation- Cosmic Force, Pow Wow, Globe, Mr. Bigg Jazzy J, Hutch
Hutch, Donald Dee. 1979, 80 (Note:
this is 3 different party’s. 1st. Audubon Pow Wow rocks a
rhyme about a bandit from the western days stealing and hiding money and
coming back 10 years later, after spending his money on women and a good
time he later on goes to the desert and commits suicide. And the Cosmic
force kill it with there routine. 2nd party in Long Island
Hutch Hutch does a rhyme about the incredible Hulk having funky cloths
and dingy hair. Pow Wow does a rhyme about buffalo bill. 3rd
party Jay is known as Lil Jazzy Jay or this is somebody who is Jays
understudy, Pow Wow does a rhyme about Lisa Lee calling him up and
telling him to come over and rock. Donald Dee does a rhyme about meeting
a girl name Tiny, Hutch Hutch does a rhyme about his daughter. They are
using the echo chamber.)90min. 107-
Zulu Nation- Sundance, Jazzy Jay, Hutch Hutch, Pow Wow. 1979 123 Park
(Note: Sundance does a rhyme about crooked things, teasing a girl in the
bed before banging her and another about the channels on T.V. Hutch
Hutch does a rhyme about meeting a girl on the train and another about
bring two girls around.)60min. 108-
Rock steady, Kevie Kev, Whipper Whip, D.J. Theodore Danceteria 1982
(Note: This is a party that the Rock steady dancers are doing there
thing, even got a brother with one leg from New Jersey doing his thing.
Also this is during the time Kevie Kev is about to start rockin with
Flash and the Furious 5 so you hear him saying some of there
rhymes.)60min. 109-
Caz, Busy Bee, Furious 5, Zulu Nation - 1981 Audubon and T- Connection (Note:
Mellie Mel on the echo, they play there album Freedom for the first time
but they are having mic problems so they turn the record over. Pow Wow
does a rhyme about how he got life in jail, Master Bee does a rhyme
about dice, Master Ice does one about how he got to Rikers Island, Lisa
Lee does one about Jazzy Jay rockin the music when she got off the train
also does the "chittie chittie bang bang" rhyme. Busy Bee is
rockin with the record "it’s the joint" and him and Caz are
clowning on the mic about who is in the party. Then they go back and
forth with there rhymes. Mandip lite and Herc are at the party. 110-
Tito and O.G. Rock 1982
(Note: This sounds like a house tape and O.C. is the D.J. records like
head hunters, catch the beat genius of love and dog the donut among
others that are being played. Tito announces that "its magic will
be out shortly and they will be doing it off dog the donut" O.G.
does a rhyme about Kennedy high school and a rhyme about the King Queen
and jack among others. Tito does rhymes by D.L.B. and Moe Dee as well as
how they got together and a rhyme about D.L.B.)60min. 111-
Fantastic 5, Rockin Rob and the M.C. Connection Crew 1980 T-Connection
(Note: There is an award ceremony. Busy Bee and Lil Spank of the Inner
City crew, give an award for Flash as the best D.J. and the Furious 5 as
the Best group and most promising. Funky 4 got 2nd place.
Apache, Barry Bee, Lil Rich, Lil Bit and Crazy ? make up the M.C.
Connection. Kevie Kev sings along with the records of "Just a touch
of Love" and "Rock with you" and Theodore once again
shows why he was so great at that time by cutting "Rock with
you" so well. And Fantastic Start there Hey Fellas routine.)60min. 112-
Zulu Nation- 1980 (Note:
This is a true Zulu Nation throw down. This is 2 party’s and both of
them kill it. 1st. party is at the T-Connection Jazzy J is
the D.J., Smitty Dee is on the echo, Kid Vicious, Tricky Tee, Malibu,
Pow Wow and Nae Nae are the M.C.s. Malibu uses the same melody but
changes some of the words to one of Caz’s rhymes, which Caz also
borrowed a couple verses from Johnny Cash, that’s right the country
singer. It’s Troy Troy’s birthday. 2nd party Bambaataa is
the D.J. and this is were he plays a lot of his fine collection, Dance
to the drummers, you are what you are, keep your distance, groove to get
down, "fuck you" by Millie Jackson, love and affection and
Jamaican or African song were the singers lyrics are about the t.v. mini
series "Roots". Also a Latin jam were the singer is saying
specific people are "a wanted man". And it was Rodney Cee’s
birthday.)90min. 113-
Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5 1980 Lace’s Roller Rink,
Roosevelt Long Island (Note:
Only one mic is working so the mic is being passed around amongst the
Furious 5. Kurtis Blow’s record "that’s the breaks" must
of just come out cause they played it a few times. Flash is using the
Infinity machine’s equipment. 114-
Side A- Mighty Mike Cee, Rob Bass, Doug Fresh, M.C. Holiday, Magic Dee,
Kid West, Jay Z, girl m.c. Ronnie Dee, D.J. Barry Bee Lincoln Projects
in Harlem 1984 (Note:
Mike Cee is doing work saying rhymes from his records and freestyling.
Magic Dee kills it with his "Charlie, Molly, Wally, Polly rhyme.
M.C. Holiday insults Rob Bass in a battle Rhyme, Rob Bass takes the high
road and hits him back with a good quality rhyme, Holiday comes back
with an average rhyme and then backs out of the battle. Doug does some
human beat box for the devastating 3 m.c.s as well as his own rhymes.
This tape starts out grainy but comes out decent.) Side
B- Tito, Mike Cee and Peso. D.J. Crazy Eddie and D.J. Reggie Reg.
Manhattan Ville projects in Harlem.
(Note: D.L.B. is not there but Fearless still kills it. UTFO is in the
crowd. Crazy Eddie is cutting together the whistle from Spoonin Rap and
the beat from Love Rap together, sounds real good.) 115-
side A -L. Brothers 197? (note:
Master Rob calls him self Robbie Rob. Busy Bee is a different m.c. while
with the L. Brothers.) side B- Fantastic 5 1980. 60min. 116-
The World Famous Supreme Team Show- 6-22-1982 (Note: The Supreme Team show was ran by C Divine the Master Mind
and Just Allah the Superstar and on this show The Force M.C.s are in the
house doing there thing and some brothers from Jersey City known as
Sweet Slick and Sly are in the studio doing there thing and the shows
just bring back some memories.60min. 117-
The World Famous Supreme Team Show- 6-24-1982 (Note: Just Allah the Superstar does his routine called
"Enlighten." I for got they also played Soul songs from the
seventies on there shows and there doing it here.60min. 118-
The World Famous Supreme Team Show- 6-?-1982 (Note: The
Force M.C.s are representing again. My projects the Grant Projects is
given a shout out, and at that time Grant was called GODS PROJECTS by
the 5 Percenters, and they had very strong following in there at that
time. Also The Earth Neffertiti of GODS PROJECTS gives a shout out of
love to her GOD L-Sun. Some other fool is giving a shout out, is cut off
just before he says something very embarrassing.)60min 119-
The Battle of the D.J.s at The New Music Seminar 7-18-1982 (Note: The D.J.s that battle are Charlie Chase, Jazzy J and
Whiz Kid. Each D.J. had an outstanding performance. It is not easy at
all for me to pick who won. The Cold Crush 4 performed for 5 minutes at
the end. Grand Master Caz is one of the host.)60min. 120-
Cold Crush 4 21st. Anniversary (Note:
I believe it is 1997. A D.J. Wendell starts out for this show. Then the
CC4 come on and do there routine "other m.c.s". J.D.L. is not
in attendance. After the routine, Caz talks about the difference between
m.c.s and rappers. Then the crew goes into a small routine about this
subject. Crash crew come on next. La Shue Bee, Darrell Cee, Reggie Reg
and E.K. Mike C are the only ones in attendance for the Crash. Next up
Jazzy J is on the 1’s and 2’s mixing a Erica Badu cut while Tricky
Tee, Rodney Cee and Jazzy Jeff come on one by one. I take my hat off to
Jazzy Jeff he did his thing. Rahiem comes on and he does his thing
starting out in French. Jazzy Joyce later comes on. Caz comes on again
does his thing taking his rhymes from back in the day and still having
them sound dope today. Also Doug Fresh comes on and rocks the human beat
box at the same time while Caz does his thing. This is also during the
death of Biggie Smalls and Tupac. So Doug is asking for peace. 90min.) 121-
Kurtis Blow – The Apollo 1985
(Note: This show starts off with D.J.A.J. battling Davy DMX it only last
for about 5 min. DMX cuts a lil faster then A.J. who is known as "A.J.
Scratch" now. But then Grand Master Flash comes up and after his
set, he says "they are two very good D.J.’s but know one is
faster then Grand Master Flash". Then Kurtis Blow goes into his
records Christmas Rap, the Breaks and others. Timmy Tee of Hollis Queens
comes and does the human beat box for Kuris Blow as he sings
daydreaming. Side
B- Africa Bambaataa and the Soul sonic Force at the Fun House in 1984.
(Note: Jelly Bean maybe the host. Bam is on the beat box and the crowd
is amp cause the Soul Sonic Force are about to do there record Planet
Rock.)60min. 122-
Grand Wizard Theodore and Master Rob Birthday party. Ecstasy garage 1980
(Note: The Cold Crush 4, Rodney Cee and Keith Keith perform for Rob and
Theodore and Fantastic do there thing. Frank Nitti and China get shout
outs. Also Mean Gene is on the One’s and two’s for a minute.)60min. 123-
Kevie Kev and Ruby Dee Birthday party. 1980 Ecstasy garage (Note: Cold Crush 4 and Busy Bee participate in the party.
Dota- Rock cousin Presweet is in the house. Dot does his rhyme about an
Amazon. J.D.L. is singing along to heart break hotel by Michael
Jackson.)90min. 124- 3 party’s on this tape. Side A- Boat ride. I finally found it! Cold Crush 4 and Treacherous 3 are going to Bear Mountain. 1982 (Note: This is were Caz does both rhymes of him dissing a heckler. Caz also does a rhyme about a pickpocketter. Caz also say’s some chick was from the "ity bitty titty committee". L.A. Sunshine does a rhyme about a fat lady. L.A. also talks about the Moe Dee Busy Bee battle.)There’s hissing. 2nd show on side A is Busy Bee at Harlem world. (Note: This is the ending to the Treacherous 3 first anniversary. Busy is rocking off of "Heart beat".) There’s hissing. Side B Force M.C.s at Valley Stream 1983 (Note: It sounds like a battle but they never say who they are going |
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albums he use to kill it. But to me he never said enough on the tapes
and his crew use to piss me off because they never really did a show,
you know routines. They would have me open, but they wouldn’t give us
enough routines in their shows.
the Technicians for that night could not get the tape deck to work at
the right time, so it was never recorded. Lucky for us the show that
second night was no were near as good as the first show they did. (Note:
check tape 20 for this show.) But now bust this; imagine if Rayvon would
have showed up that first night of the battle. Him and Johnny Wa would
of gave Moe Dee and L.A. a run for there money. Don’t know what I am
talking about, then listen to tape number 76 with Johnny WA and Rayvon
they killed it. Never heard of them, they are of the Magnificent 7 of
Harlem. You say who are they? The members were Ray and Wa as you know,
as well as D.J. Tastic, D.J. Spivey, Shoeshine, D.J. Cookie And E-Man.
Yes ladies and gentlemen who always wondered who he was, E-man (Who was
named by his man Chu Chu from the Bx.) was mostly just a respected
homeboy and m.c. who happened to be kool with them and help put the
equipment together, as well as m.c., break dance and tag graffiti. Grand
Master Caz told me, him and JDL often battled Ray and Wa, and said they
were some talented brothers. To read more abot the Moe Dee vs. Busy Bee
battle and Rayvon and Johnny wa go to 
stopped
it was still…SHOWTIME. Know telling what was going to come out of
those two mouth’s.
LETS
GO BACK FOR A MINUTE-Like I said earlier it is real hard for me to tell
which female m.c. 
heard
it. 
point, and they wanted to be the top m.c. crew (secretly) and so the
crowds gave them love, other m.c. crews gave them props, we did too!
However like I explained to you before that, all those groups wanted to
get at us except the alliance (Treach 3, fearless 4, Dougie Fresh). Why?
Because every single M.C. contest we got in we won and all them groups
that were in them couldn’t do nothing about it! And I mean we never
dissed no group that didn’t draw blood first, always humble and
confident, polite and never no snake moves! So back then a lot of
promoters use to hook up fake battles to draw the crowd and make a lot
of money, the groups that would of supposedly battled were told in
advance it was rigged just come do your regular show get paid, all is
good. We had no beef with the Force M.C.s at the time so I don’t know
what was on there mind. We did mad shows with them, even in the Shaolin
(S.I., their turf) and got along alright. Any way we had 3 shows that
night and wanted to knock out that show first cause it was in Jersey, so
we got there, got on and bounced, did a regular show kept it moving, we
didn’t even get dressed. So the next day we were at Caz house
practicing and this kid that was a roadie let us listen to the tape and
we was like "this don’t make no sense" so we called our
manager and asked him when was the next time we were playing with the
Force M.C.s and it just so happen that next week we were playing with
them at printing H.S. so we rolled up in there strong like the
untouchables on some gangbusters. Went dead up in their dressing room,
surrounded them and asked them why they did that foul move. They broke
down and gave some lame excuse. So we took what they was getting paid
that night (with out guns) and told them that at the next Harlem world
party they are to apologize to us in front of capacity crowd and let the
crowd no what they did. I don’t know if there’s a tape of that night
but the next M.C. contest after that we stood in front of the stage when
the Force got on, wished them luck and A.D. threw a rabbit’s foot in
Mercury’s (R.I.P.) face and when we got on last at that particular M.C.
contest we broke out with two new dance steps. Two smoking new routines
and before we got off we showed them the money the contest was paying
cause the promoter knew we was going to win and paid us right before we
got on stage. Then Caz threw $100.00 in singles in the crowd, which
caused pandemonium and we left! And our relationship with them after
that was "you bring it to us again we will end your career"!
To read the whole interview between me and J.D.L. go to 
later and killed
it with hand cuffs and Kevie Kev said "We handled the 4, and
Theodore handled them all". I found this to be a very interesting
moment in hip hop so I had to get some real good inside information, so
I had to see my man the rhymethologist J.D.L. My question to him was
"What tipped off the BATTLE and what was the buzz (feeling) in the
Bx. in the days leading up to the battle"? Well Busy Bee amped that
up. We all were in the ecstasy garage us, them, and Busy waiting to get
paid after the show taking flicks. Busy is under the influence talking
garbage. I don’t know maybe Busy knew we kind 
of
had an edge on Fantastic. Any way Busy said to us "yeah Cold Crush
rocked it tonight but I Know who yall can’t mess with"